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Water Cooler / Re: Troubles
All clear.   :)

What the host's scanner was detecting was the anti-virus sub-program built into the directory script.  Yes WSN Links has it's own anti-virus program.  I guess it's not uncommon for antivirus programs to flag each other as problems.

So all is good and I don't face the decision of having to dump hundreds of dollars into this.

@joe jenett thanks for looking the site over!

Upon questioning via a support ticket, the hosting company did specify what files they detected as problems.  They should have just specified these in the initial warning.  I just got the report of another scan by them that shows the site is clear.
Water Cooler / Troubles
@joe jenett  @Kicks Condor FYI 

I just got a message from my web host that Indieseek has been blacklisted by their security scans.  They are vague but allude to malicious code.  I'm investigating and have a ticket in with WSN Links.

The web host, is recommending a cleanup service which is costly and doesn't say that I'll still have a functioning website after they muck about.

I'm waiting for replies, but as of right now I'm not inclined to spend huge gobs of money into this.  Not sure what my course of action will be.
Directory and Indieweb Search Discussion / Linear Webring with a Directory Idea
I’ve spent the better part of two days setting up a “The Unofficial Webring”, troubleshooting as to why my browsers blocked the ring code on my Hugo blog but let it pass on my WordPress blog, researching and looking for alternatives.  All for nothing.

-- There will be No Webring Revival for the Masses.

So okay, I'm not going to build a traditional webring for members any time soon.  I'm thinking, is there another way around this?  I have a directory with categories and directories are a very versatile thing if you think about it.

My Big Plan:

What if I create a linear "ring" (of a sort)?

Most webrings generate an index page  of all ring members.  So a linear ring would be a sub-category within the directory of just participants.  Anybody adding their blog would have the option to link back to that sub-category to share traffic with other members.  It would be a sort of "ring" built around that index page I spoke of.  It isn't perfect but it might work.

Anyway that's what I'm thinking of doing.

Water Cooler / An Artifact from Web 1.0
I just ran across this artifact from Web 1.0

This is from before SEO had a name.  I first discovered this site before Google was around.  Promoting a website was primarily about getting it listed in as many directories and search engines as you could.  This is a later version of the site then when I first found it in the late 1990's but the text is substantially the same.  For someone like me, knowing zero about directories and search engines, reading through all that text and guide pages taught me a lot.
Directory and Indieweb Search Discussion / Indie web meta search notes.
Just in case I, or somebody else wants to make an indie web meta search engine I thought I'd list some resources.  My notes.

3. feed directory has an API.
       Personal Use - but that might be negotiated
       Credit as source
       One would have to mark results from PB as "Feed" or "RSS" since results are feeds.  Google used to do this.
4. has an API.
       Requires credit as source.
5. wiki
       I'm not totally sure about this.
6.  (has no search function, but I suppose one could spider it with permission.)

A lot depends on how said meta is set up.  If you are opening up search results on their own domains (ie. a search of would open a tab with results on  1. it's easier,  2. prior permission is not needed, 3. API not needed.  However if one was using a real metasearch script and displaying the results on the meta's site one would have to use the API's or set up a scrape with permission.

Feel free to add other likely resources.
Directory and Indieweb Search Discussion / Re: What software are you using
Joe, thanks for the detailed rundown.  I've been sitting on a domain for years, wanting to do some sort of local directory myself but the timing wasn't right and the tools were not available.  But now it looks like the tools are there with Directories Pro so I might give it a shot with the inspiration provided by you and @Ed.

One of those was I didn't want to get locked into Google maps, so the Open Street Map option is a big plus. 

One thing that frustrates me is that so many small local businesses only use a Facebook page instead of having a website.  Have you encountered that and if/so are you listing the FB page or just leaving it blank?
Traffic / Re: How to build traffic and users.
I finally looked at the banner ad rotation feature on my directory script WSNLinks.  It's very basic, intended for placing Adsense Javascript code, maybe Amazon js code or HTML5 banners wherever I want them on the directory theme.   That isn't really what I need.  Also the banners won't appear on the blog.

My thought was to:

1. advertise other websites on the same domain (ie. advertise these forums.)
2. offer free advertising to certain groups to build goodwill.

All of which is a nice thought but I don't have enough traffic and the limitations of only using HTML5 banners.
Directory and Indieweb Search Discussion / Re:
Followup:  I added both my blog and the directory blog to the RSS directory named above and 12 hrs later they are in the listings.  I suggest you add your blogs.

ADDED:  I just checked the directory search function.  It does indeed spider the contents of your feed.  Example:  For Indieseek blog the term "technorati" only appears in a post.  A search for that term turned up the Indieseek blog.  Cool.
Directory and Indieweb Search Discussion / is a RSS feed reader, a blogging platform and a blog RSS feed directory.

On the reader part: 1.  you have a timeline of posts from the feeds you have subscribed to.  The whole look and feed in more like Twitter or  2. You can have more than one timeline - so this is a bit like folders.  The reader is free at least for now.

Blogging Platform:  $5 per month.  It does support webmentions.  Since I don't want to spend money for a blog, thats all I know.

RSS feed directory:  This is the exciting part.  You can add your blog's feed even if you have an outside blog.  Free, but you need to sign up for a free acct.  Adding blog feeds to the directory is not real intuitive but not hard to figure out.  Human reviewed.  Once your blog feed is in the directory it's very easy for any Pine timeline user to add your feed to their reader.  But anyone can use this directory to find feeds.

Also for you coders, Pine has an API.

Also, also they have an iOS app.
Directory and Indieweb Search Discussion / Re: Article: "Adding value to your links"
I agree with many of these, some I don't.  But those I agree with I'm taking to heart:

Be more descriptive in my entries.  Before I was being dispassionate (neutral) in my descriptions now I'm trying to give a fuller sense of what is available on a site.

Editorialize more:  Say why I like the site or why it is useful or why I have reservations.  The last happens rarely, because if I have reservations about a site it probably won't make it into the index.

I investigated displaying the URL of the listing, thinking that it would encourage more users to click through.  It can be done but the templates for individual listings are very complex and a bit beyond my ability to edit.  I'll revisit this in the future.

I'm considering thumbshots again and that these might also encourage click throughs.  Gen X and later Gens are very visually oriented.  Potential Problems include:  1. I have a lot of obscure sites for which thumbshots may not be available, 2. they add clutter, 3. They slow loading, 4. Thumbshots of slicker looking sites are more likely to get clicked upon while homely sites may get ignored so it becomes a beauty contest.  5. Thumbshot services are a third party silo. 6. Rendering on phone screens might be screwed up.

Still it's really a matter of flicking a switch back in the Admin panel, I can always turn it off again.   If I'm going to experiment, it is easier to do now while I only have a modest amount of listings than later when the index is bigger so I might experiment with it for a year.